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	<title>Comments on: Ep 131: David Knox, James Talia, Logies, and Canal Road</title>
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	<description>It&#039;s Television: Dissected</description>
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		<title>By: catbrain</title>
		<link>http://boxcutters.net/2008/05/06/boxcutters-episode-131/comment-page-1/#comment-51625</link>
		<dc:creator>catbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your eps with David Knox - you always get some good discussions going.

I love watching The Logies, precisely for the reasons David mentioned - it&#039;s a car crash and there&#039;s always something a little controversial.  It really was a bit of a mess without a host, wasn&#039;t it?  They do take themselves far too seriously, though... let the soap starlets think it&#039;s some really important event, but also let the seasoned actors a bit of free rein.  It&#039;s Australia, ffs!  When have we ever taken ourselves that seriously?!  But thank god we&#039;re over the 50 years of The Logies now, so I never have to watch Bert Newton and Muhammad Ali again.  One of the best moments in Logies history, for me, was Georgie Parker&#039;s first Gold win:  &quot;I have no idea what this is for...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your eps with David Knox &#8211; you always get some good discussions going.</p>
<p>I love watching The Logies, precisely for the reasons David mentioned &#8211; it&#8217;s a car crash and there&#8217;s always something a little controversial.  It really was a bit of a mess without a host, wasn&#8217;t it?  They do take themselves far too seriously, though&#8230; let the soap starlets think it&#8217;s some really important event, but also let the seasoned actors a bit of free rein.  It&#8217;s Australia, ffs!  When have we ever taken ourselves that seriously?!  But thank god we&#8217;re over the 50 years of The Logies now, so I never have to watch Bert Newton and Muhammad Ali again.  One of the best moments in Logies history, for me, was Georgie Parker&#8217;s first Gold win:  &#8220;I have no idea what this is for&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KMJvet1</title>
		<link>http://boxcutters.net/2008/05/06/boxcutters-episode-131/comment-page-1/#comment-50633</link>
		<dc:creator>KMJvet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pre-Logies red carpet thing makes all of the Australian tv industry look like they&#039;re severely under-medicated.

The show itself wasn&#039;t bad.  I think the concept of the awards themselves is the problem.  To use some American awards as examples, it&#039;s as if you tried to mix the Emmys-dayntime &amp; primetime, TV Guide Awards, Soap Opera Digest Awards and a little bit of the ESPYs all into one.  It just wouldn&#039;t work.  And the Logies may have been around for 50 years (which is longer even than Australia made television shows isn&#039;t it?) but that doesn&#039;t mean the concept isn&#039;t now unworkable (nice triple negative).  If you have a dinner party and serve red wine, Kool-aid, pigs in a blanket, gourmet olives, and popcorn, nobody&#039;s going to leave feeling they had a good meal no matter if there&#039;s a charming host, designer napkins, or good music. 
 It&#039;s not the show itself, it&#039;s the categories and who&#039;s up against whom, and the fact that having categories like single news story--most popular girl on a SOAP--anything that pretends to be a serious acting award, just won&#039;t go together and leaves out a lot what should be done.

And yeah, I did watch it because John Clarke is a treasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pre-Logies red carpet thing makes all of the Australian tv industry look like they&#8217;re severely under-medicated.</p>
<p>The show itself wasn&#8217;t bad.  I think the concept of the awards themselves is the problem.  To use some American awards as examples, it&#8217;s as if you tried to mix the Emmys-dayntime &amp; primetime, TV Guide Awards, Soap Opera Digest Awards and a little bit of the ESPYs all into one.  It just wouldn&#8217;t work.  And the Logies may have been around for 50 years (which is longer even than Australia made television shows isn&#8217;t it?) but that doesn&#8217;t mean the concept isn&#8217;t now unworkable (nice triple negative).  If you have a dinner party and serve red wine, Kool-aid, pigs in a blanket, gourmet olives, and popcorn, nobody&#8217;s going to leave feeling they had a good meal no matter if there&#8217;s a charming host, designer napkins, or good music.<br />
 It&#8217;s not the show itself, it&#8217;s the categories and who&#8217;s up against whom, and the fact that having categories like single news story&#8211;most popular girl on a SOAP&#8211;anything that pretends to be a serious acting award, just won&#8217;t go together and leaves out a lot what should be done.</p>
<p>And yeah, I did watch it because John Clarke is a treasure.</p>
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		<title>By: FulltimeCasual</title>
		<link>http://boxcutters.net/2008/05/06/boxcutters-episode-131/comment-page-1/#comment-50590</link>
		<dc:creator>FulltimeCasual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, sorry, mentioned this on my very sub-par podcast, but the prequel to underbelly needs to be the kath pettingil, victor peirce story. 

it would be fantastic, the real life phoenix/janus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, sorry, mentioned this on my very sub-par podcast, but the prequel to underbelly needs to be the kath pettingil, victor peirce story. </p>
<p>it would be fantastic, the real life phoenix/janus.</p>
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		<title>By: FulltimeCasual</title>
		<link>http://boxcutters.net/2008/05/06/boxcutters-episode-131/comment-page-1/#comment-50589</link>
		<dc:creator>FulltimeCasual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Rayne is truly awful. 

Possibly cos he&#039;s the poor man&#039;s poorer man&#039;s Kochie, and Kochie aint that good. 

I really fucking hate that show he&#039;s on, and i feel sorry for the unemployed/students/and domestic workers that watch him. 

One of the reasons i havent quit my job is cos i cant handle mid morning tv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Rayne is truly awful. </p>
<p>Possibly cos he&#8217;s the poor man&#8217;s poorer man&#8217;s Kochie, and Kochie aint that good. </p>
<p>I really fucking hate that show he&#8217;s on, and i feel sorry for the unemployed/students/and domestic workers that watch him. </p>
<p>One of the reasons i havent quit my job is cos i cant handle mid morning tv.</p>
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